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June 06, 2008
Of Interest 06/06/2008
- Ravelry, the knitting social network, raises $71K from its users. First amazing thing (to me, a non-knitter) is that Ravelry even exists. There truly is a place for everyone on the big ol' Internet, and with each community a corresponding business opportunity. Second interesting thing is that the donation drive was user initiated. I wonder if it will be a regular occurrence. I like the idea of community supported social networks, but I doubt it is a sustainable model. Indeed Ravelry's primary sources of income are advertising and affiliation fees
- Lessons on building online communities from the people behind Flickr. Two key points: Firstly, it takes a lot of effort to grow a community, and the creators have to get involved in that early stage. Later on, it's best to get out of the way and let the members decide for themselves what the community is like. The discussion of Flickr's design, intentionally personal but unobtrusive, is a great point and reminds me of the service at the best restaurants.
- If I understand Clay Shirky correctly, drinking gin is the original form of blogging. Bottoms up! Seriously, at least skim read the text. Note that some evidence suggests at least part of thesis does not hold.
Update: More thoughts on Ravelry
Posted by Noel at June 6, 2008 12:27 PM
Comments
Posted by: Zach Beane at June 6, 2008 02:57 PM
Posted by: Devin at June 6, 2008 02:57 PM
Posted by: Noel at June 6, 2008 03:24 PM
Posted by: Kate at June 6, 2008 04:28 PM
Posted by: Emily at June 6, 2008 04:43 PM
Posted by: Beadknitter at June 6, 2008 04:47 PM
Posted by: Anne at June 6, 2008 05:12 PM
Hey Noel,
Someone linked you over on Ravelry so you might see a few knitters and crocheters popping in :) I just wanted to mention that the majority of our advertisers are also very active community members. We created our own ad network and priced it to attract tiny businesses (Etsy shops, local stores) in addition to the more medium sized ones.
Although we don't survive on donations alone, the community really is what keeps us running - Ravelers contribute money, advertise, edit our hundreds of thousands of pattern and yarn pages, share their projects, assist other users in a help chat, participate in the forums and run groups... We're having a great time.
Posted by: Casey at June 6, 2008 05:47 PM
Posted by: Mariss at June 6, 2008 06:28 PM
"There are thousands of us!"
Yes, as in over 136,000 and growing everyday and the site is just a year old. I just had to stick that in there because I really don't think non-knitters know or even think of us as a force to be reckoned with [not that they ever think of us]. I like your "more thoughts on Ravelry". Thank-you for your comments. We get a little psyched when 'others' takes notice.
Posted by: redplaid at June 7, 2008 05:20 PM
I think community supported social networks is a very sustainable model, at least for knitters :-) As another fellow raveller, I know how much hardships knitters go through, and as we are a very small community in the world, Ravelry is a great place to meet up and feel that there are others like you out there. We need the site to stay alive so what we do is to donate when there is availability, as simple as that!
Thanks for mentioning Ravelry!
Posted by: Alex at June 10, 2008 09:40 PM
The membership on Ravelry is so small because they're still beta-testing it.
Once it opens up, probably a large percentage of the 5 million knitters in the US and the 50 million knitters in North America will join. Not to mention people from other parts of the world.
One single bloging knitter raised hundreds of thousands for Doctors without Borders all by herself.
Posted by: Johann Mitchell at June 11, 2008 12:17 AM
Posted by: Casey at June 11, 2008 03:21 PM
Hey there!
Another Ravelry member here. I also wanted to point out that one particular member raised over $5000 for the AIDS Life Cycle in San Francisco on Ravelry donations alone. There's an awesome sense of community there, and the resources are phenomenal. They also have a little mini-mart where they sell Ravelry related items, which is usually sold out due to popularity. It's become extremely valuable to the fibre arts community, and is pretty close to being a household name.
Learn to play with string and come by and see us!
Posted by: cablefreak at June 11, 2008 09:30 PM
Knitter's are taking over the world. And Ravelry is our home base. Do you have any idea, how awesome this site is? That you can put in any pattern, and find that 300 people have knitted it as well, and what their problems/perks were about it? Casey and Jess need a Noble prize or something for coming up with this place! And if i have to donate money, to help them keep it going, then i will donate all the money i can scrounge up! RAVELRY ROCKS!!!! Power to the knitters!
Posted by: Margaret at June 12, 2008 02:53 PM
another Raveler here--I think something that will contribute to the longevity of this "social networking" site (I too have problems with that description--it is only a fraction of what Ravelry offers) is that knitters, crocheters, spinners, and other fiber artists are engaged in a lifelong pursuit of their craft (and often get wrapped up in related crafts along the way). If Ravelry were merely a social networking site, it would certainly have a very limited lifespan, but the kind of networking we are able to engage in makes Ravelry almost indispensable to those of us who are a part of it. We are able to collaborate with knitters et al all over the world--we can ask each other for help with difficult projects or techniques, get inspiration from other crafter's projects, share info about good/bad retailers or products, find all kinds of patterns and yarns......It is a powerful tool, well designed and well executed. Long Live Ravelry!
Posted by: Noelle at June 13, 2008 01:03 AM
Hi! Another Ravelry member here! And I think someone needs to say this--Ravelry has succeeded so well because it has killer-code. It works! I've never seen any other "networking site" so accessible, nimble and versatile. Kudos to Casey and Jess. Their model could be applied to virtually any interest group, and with equal success I think. But then *none* of us would ever get any useful work done...<rg>
Posted by: Sharon at June 13, 2008 03:07 AM
Don't underestimate the power of knitters!
I think Jess and Casey are sitting on a goldmine!
Posted by: Jackie at June 14, 2008 08:54 PM
I'm an old lady Raveler. All I know is point and click. But I love Ravelry. I'm on it at least an hour every day. Knitters are the best people.
Posted by: Claire at June 16, 2008 10:19 PM
"nimble code" s a great way to put it, commenter up there ^^. It is a really wonderful THING, Ravelry, no matter how you evaluate it.
Posted by: Taueret at June 17, 2008 03:41 AM
